monomecontrol objects - build your monome interface

I have been working hard on developing methods of building monome interfaces in max/msp.

I think I have reached a workflow which is good for me.

Here are the first few objects. More to come.

http://docs.monome.org/doku.php?id=app:monomecontrol

These objects work by associating themselves with a part of your patch. Button presses will control your patch, and the current state of your patch is displayed on the monome.

These are two separate processes that can be linked or kept separate. For example, you could use monomebutton simply to light an LED on your monome.

Please download them, have a play, see if you can break them, and report back any problems.

Hopefully this will make building monome interface in max/msp easier.

Nice one james. Been waiting for this!
Thanks

update: love it! took me a while to figure everything out and the attributes patch in the help files threw me off the scent.
One thing that does annoy me is that you have to connect up a slider object and route it back into inlet 2 to make the leds work. Could this not be done within the object?

Maybe add a button mode where it flashes if its on? @metro 250 (0 = off)?
Something like this in the led part:
----------begin_max5_patcher----------
380.3ocuT9sSCBCEF+Z3onoWyVn72o24ygYwzAG2pAZIPWb5xd2kdJnaFjvT
G2zS5WO8zO9Q64nqCci5.zPI2Sdj33bz0wAkLBNcycnk7CYE7FLMpDdUs4Ep
mcIMbPixY63xs.YAqeE49Rgr.z3tXchOqjZIuDvs7PsfWbV5p8597C6TsR52
p.qEoTOBUH08Ax5tDE4XIac1B1p9ZVw0Y6DxsOUCYZaABSBW56QBYAlPRjYL
veo+mEx3vFw634YRxndx00L382HTUMTAx7+E9v9Q9LHQRGgHQVTD4ig33YjH
a4ZXPbDbawQxn3vdAI0FlyKHkftVca4wl1GoCyj3wXRDd2HL3N7lBaFYRc6m
.P9YxbsObBFqwxvjIZLxD6ivXEBnzfqgLXNzBg768ewywneItZT6qy5saeiN
xWGUNznERtVnjmmTxEIsSjmC359cJkh7JUauzNSPVO3OuI6ojo3oz40SwSkS
r4ySQSwSwyKmlrm9sbpcxI2O.T3ouON
-----------end_max5_patcher-----------

Are you thinking of working on any more objects? Multislider might be useful? And also a snakey slider a la dj64? It'd be cool to make some sort of patch for making monome apps where you have a gui slect all the attributes for say a slider and then click create. And you'd be able add pages and select which page you wanted stuff to be on, be an easy way to get layout ideas down quickly and then just mess about with the inards, i don't know im rambling.

Good work, i'll keep trying to break it!

This is more of a utility for creating monome apps rather than a way of laying out midi controls.
I don't think that would be possible but probably the other way round.

dovemouse -

did you find it hard to use the help files because details were hidden in a sub-patch? should i make that more obvious?

having the two signal paths, messages to left inlet causes right output, and messages to middle inlet causes left output, is on purpose. the idea is for monome interface objects to be intrinsically linked with parts of the patch. the status of the patch is always displayed on the leds, whether controlled by the monome buttons or not. the monome buttons then only control your patch and do not directly affect the leds.

i know this can look messy with feedback loops on patch cords, which is why i added the @send attribute. have you tried that?

----------begin_max5_patcher----------
429.3ocuUFsaBBCEF9Z3onoW6lTPEbWs8brXVpziytTZIPw4lw28UZQGNctl
LC2.omyeo+mONGXWX.doZKTiQOfdFEDrKLHvFpMPP25.bAcatfVakgqEbFTg
G4RsgVIoEvExHaJTMZAnsaizEkyrRUKe6NRxAoqDJp1HtrQ2Wqa65OJAm+vX
zhtT07OsASuOpKRIUmulKe8kJHW6zSlFYRihI1ajItUlqGeLFOxkGsXar8gg
sWF4ILjv6lR4Pcngs1iFWnjpBvwCzi0fjgtFbhOGNSw+JDF0GDqTR8wW.OUw
oBbuLGvDI9ZbJcpELN9PlkccLkb6vTYET1xlwlcOV.Luacxv+cKxMjLoNxDM
bMPMrRaWiPkSEqU0ZTVTVzk4Sz47YB9lCgDW0SRRGLHTYJRv0bX5TLZ8c3IY
vGdHyr2lmNjcHFS.7Mfo0HJx6Qm3Aczgj33xb+4hUAVvk+72R1CoM9ovpV0T
kenF59zI56ygA0Ztjp4JYOMYmnYMmw.Y+YoBNqTwk5NKfVbwWb95nDObzzA0
QDesDYvrTrGNJYPgTlGNZx+vQlE6C+xinMio
-----------end_max5_patcher-----------

adding flashing for monomebutton, ok

yes there are more objects which aren't finished yet.

what would be multislider? like a bank of 8 sliders?

what's a 'snakey slider'?

yes multislider like that is a good idea

ok, yeah i get what you mean about snakey slider!

thanks jimdrake, your patches will be very useful, especially if one were to, say, make an interface for a djing environment.....

perhaps i should make a bunch of objects, like 'monomesynth' with attributes like @reallyloud and @plinky and @donk .

in all seriousness, if we all made a couple of objects that were as well coded, flexible, and as useful as jimdrake's objects here, all we would need is one master patch that could use thispatcher to create and connect objects together, and monome users without max msp would be able to put together their own basic patches, without a max license, and without prior knowledge of tiny faggoty little objects like 'int', and 'line~' etc. they could piece together blocks that are designed to be used with the monome, and that could be a bit more fun than watching other people do it.

monomebutton 1.1: adds flashing and more

this looks incredibly useful!
i look forward to finishing exams, buying max and making full use of these.
thanks!!

that bird chirping in your video really had me fooled! i had my headphones on and thought "well i've never heard that bird before." i thought a new species had moved into my neighborhood. oh well, birds are chirping here anyway. must be time for bed.

yeah, i'm a bit bored of demo videos, thought i would add something nice in the background.

the birds are definitely not from the UK ;)

"monomebutton 1.1: adds flashing and more"

Very interesting, i'll be examining how you implemented this. Great initiative.

> brucewayne
er?!

> bitbutter
there are three attributes used to flash the led.

@flash 1
means that whenever the led should be lit, it flashes instead of being solid.

@rate [time-value]
set how fast the led should flash, any of the max time values can be used, including tempo relative ones.

@flashtise [time-value]
this only works if @rate is set to a tempo relative value, it quantises the flashes so that the led only changes state on the edge of the specified time-boundary. this is distinct from the @quantise attribute which actually quantises your button presses.

try this (you must have global transport running):

----------begin_max5_patcher----------
370.3ocuT9saCBBEF+Z8ofv0tUAama6ptmiklEpPqrffQNl0sl9tOEzt9OWL
Yc8FLbNejuO9A31v.7RyFgEidF8JJHXaXPfqTagft4A3B1lLEy5jgAy50JAN
x2RWWXpAk.bMIcUkbmTyx2uaVuRuL3yRg2MrTCXzhttkLHKWpW+VkHC7BRdH
993HDk3+reb+ZZ7Vp2acascggsCQibqnEezDw9.BhMNmwEFsoPrrF.iFMeUi
7bDAMuhABzz9Jfz1N6xbfdNGRFjC3nSXwJiFzrBWe7KURlBePGq7KWGBsAHC
BOJcliWS8X6wm9c5kb8nWYknTn4nIMqdhRvG8ME5vD5eAMoNzPhucWrp4k1V
znLYLUtwBnz3z3KCn3yADAe8oPhe6SRRGOEbJvJo9zeb3ros9wnwZpqx5OK6
dKf9wGtvBRMCjF8AZnGoIWx4B8gboPxKMMOa5h.ZwEOlFahlMhD0lZxMKQzQ
jHxefQMS1E9MjPnYiA
-----------end_max5_patcher-----------

>> brucewayne
> er?!

you just have a very comfortable voice :) really great in combination with those birdies in the background. but i didnt want to divert from the reason of your video, so sorry for the off topic.

i would buy them :)

... or like kinder surprise.

looks like a normal control object, but send it the right commands in the right order and random audio appears from nowhere!

HOT STUFF.

now i only wish i had max 5 (or max for live)... any clue how difficult it would be to move these objects to that that environment when it's avail?

hopefully a smart company like cycling is noticing jim's work as well, nicely done!

judas priest, this is some nice work. mapd lives! long live mapd! and much more besides!

i need to sit down and play with these properly

i'm pretty sure i've seen max4live patches with subpatches in. dunno about the udp objects though. but, i can't see any sense in them leaving them out.

Sorry so I only bought max a couple of days ago (I got fed up with not being able to modify patches myself in Max, the runtime just wasn't enough!) so I apologize cause this sounds like a really easy question.

Do you have to install objects to use them in Max? It won't let me select your objects cause they aren't .mxo files...

I've googled this and looked through cycling74s site but couldn't find anything, thanks for anyones help!!

[Oh and from what I've seen/heard these objects look amazing, thanks so much!]

@jimdrake

Bitbasic Live - Fractal Pants, which is what program? Phat azz beats, groovy tunes for dancin too. Mad props! Very new to monome. are these applications found on the monome website?
cheers.

This is great stuff - thanks very much - and the video is huge help!