SevenUpLive 1.4beta4 [[[WHOOT! SHAPED DIGITALS]]{{PARTY}}

SevenUpLive 1.4 beta4 is now available to download.

http://www.makingthenoise.com/sevenup/SevenUpLiveOSX-v1.4beta4.tar.gz
http://www.makingthenoise.com/sevenup/SevenUpLiveWindows-v1.4beta4.zip

Previous Beta is at
http://www.makingthenoise.com/sevenup/SevenUpLiveOSX-v1.4beta3.tar.gz
http://www.makingthenoise.com/sevenup/SevenUpLiveWindows-v1.4beta3.zip

Beta 4 really takes the melodizers off the hook.

- All patterns on both melodizers are independently accessible at once from multiple views on multiple monomes or different grids on a 128 /256s etc. This allows you to interact with as many patterns and instruments at once as you have button-estate. Multiple performers can work off the same live set for some awesome collaboration.

- Each pattern can be independently transposed by scale degree or key. However now you can create transpose groups where groups will transpose together. These groups will bind across melodizers for the ability to create some really amazing movements within your patterns.

- Different transpose modes GATE/SUSTAIN which allow old notes to either be gated or sustained after a transposition.

Beta 3 adds a lot of new scales

Remember it's a beta so there will be bugs. Backup any existing patches first before loading.

The big new feature here is improvements to the Melodizers.

Transposing of notes within a scale by key and also modes of the scale. Transpositions can effect both live and recorded patterns.

New Melodizer modes.
- Keyboard for changing keys.
- Position bar for moving by degrees in a scale.
- Ability to have no tools at the bottom for example when using to trigger samples.
- Ability to chose a mode and alternate mode. Toggle by hitting the solid nav light twice.

Two example videos

First Video transposing chords while playing live
http://www.vimeo.com/6780585

Second Video transposing patterns + live notes playing live
http://www.vimeo.com/6883154

Use this thread for discussing the Beta Only please. Use the other 7up threads for normal support questions.

Look for stuck midi notes and quirks like that and please report them. Thanks!

mac osx version isn't working at home. 1.2 works well but i can't make tu 1.4 working. Lauching the jar is ok, the 7 is blinking, the channel in Live are correctly set up (clock, channel 8 for every midi track) etc ... , but the sequencer bar isn't running when i push play in ableton.

mac osx 10.6.1
live 8.0.5

prefix is ok (7up), the melodizers are working (but only on channel 1), but the looper and sequencer isn't working. It seems to be a clock problem. My clock setting is on IAC 2 (my midi clock by defaut in live) and channel 8. Into midi monitor, i've got that :

23:08:11.618 From Bus IAC 2 Note Off 1 F7 64
23:08:11.618 From Bus IAC 2 Note Off 1 E7 64
23:08:11.618 From Bus IAC 2 Note On 1 D#4 101
23:08:11.618 From Bus IAC 2 Note On 1 C7 101
23:08:11.618 From Bus IAC 2 Note On 1 F7 101
23:08:11.618 From Bus IAC 2 Note On 1 E7 101
23:08:11.650 From Bus IAC 2 Note Off 1 E7 64

when i press play (space) in live.

sick. trying this soon.

will try it tonight

With "Transpose Patterns" off, touching the Keyboard or the Position bar will transpose the playing grid into a new key or degrees offset in the scale you have chosen.

You can hold down pads and hit the Position Bar for instance and the held notes will be retriggered at the new pitch(scale offset) for some great chord changes.

If you record-enable a pattern slot and play while transposing, all these pitches will be captured in the recording.

However, when playing back the pattern, the notes are always played back as captured and they are not transposed further by interacting with the keyboard or position bar. What does happen is if you are watching the grid and you move the position bar of a running pattern, the lights of the pattern will shift as the grid does, inorder to maintain the notes as captured.

with "Transpose Patterns" turned ON. Interacting with the Keyboard or Position bar on a running recorded pattern will live transpose the currently playing notes in the pattern.

My suggestion is to play first with "Transpose Patterns" OFF to get the hang of it, then try turning it on. I would also choose the "Keyboard/Position" option which lets you toggle between Keys and Position Bar at the bottom by double-tapping the solid nav light in the right nav column when in a Melodizer.

All pattern slots transpose independently.

A few Rules to guide you.

1. Notes are always recorded AT the pitch you hear them play at when you are recording them. After that, the original notes are NEVER altered and are saved and loaded at this pitch always.

2. If you record in a certain scale like "Minor 7", you can freely transpose up and down and across positions while maintaining all notes. However, if you change a recorded scale to another scale, say change "Minor 7" to "Pentatonic", rule #1 above still applies. As you transpose, notes that cannot be transposed to the new scale are dropped and do not play. This can be a cool effect, but if you don't want it, you have to rerecord the pattern using the new scale.

3. With "Transpose Patterns" on, the Key and Position that are active when the pattern slot recording is ended, becomes the root of the live transpose, so transpositions on that active playing pattern become relative to this postion.

NOTE: I may change this and make it choose the position at the start of recording or something, or somehow make it user assignable. Beta feedback could help here.

Have Fun!

Spent this morning adding a whole shit ton of scale playgrounds for beta 3.

MinorPentatonic Pentatonic Blues MinorBlues UltraLocrian SuperLocrian Locrian DoubleHarmonic Dorian HungarianGypsy HungarianMinor Romanian LocrianMajor Hindu Major MinorSeven LydianMinor Lydian LydianAugmented LeadingWholeTone Hungarian HungarianMajor Billian Minor Chromatic Mullnixian Yorkian Telerium ChromaticHypolydian InstantJazz Ionian5 JazzMinorInverse JethsMode LocrianSharp2 LydianDiminished LydianFlat7 LydianSharp2 Miles PhrygianFlat4 Chinese Egyptian Hirajoshi InSen IWato Japanese JewishSpanish Philgarian Sambah

The beta in general? or beta 3?

I just downloaded the beta and I'm going to try it when I get off work. Looks exciting!

Looks awesome, I'll give it a go this arvo when i get home

this is awesome, and your watch is ridiculous too :)

awesome dude, thanks for the update. I'll be trying it out tomorrow.

You mean being able to shorten a loop to a smaller step range or even reverse it mlr style?

I'll admit it's not on the list, but pitch it to us. I keep wondering if we are missing certain features from our looper that make people run back to mlr.

pirx, i was working on that subloop thing for a bit, but i ran into some weird glitches.. i don't think i ever committed what i had back to the repository.. i'll see if i can have another glance in the next week or so.

might as well write down my wishlist for the looper. it's not much, really :)

note: these are just personal preferences. hopefully some of them are shared by some people too.

1. inner loops (as above)

2. left to right. i tried flipping the orientation to the side (so the rightmost column becomes the topmost row), and it's okay except the row order is bottom to top, unlike mlr's top to bottom. that can be quite confusing if i use 7up and mlr interchangeably.

i suppose it's a minor issue, and i think i can change this manually? maybe remap midi assignments?

3. i am not fully decided on this yet, but when i mute a looper pattern (in masterizer), i find that i want the affected tracks to keep playing (as a loop played normally) instead of stopping.

4. play backwards (as in backmask effect, not play slices in reverse order) - possibly covered by inner loops

5. variable quantization when playing with slices. or is this ableton-dependent?

3/4 would be nice too! good for waltzy swing jazz stuff.

i really dont have anything to say about the other modes as they fit my needs very well indeed. great job - can't stress that enough.

ultimate global and interstellar thanks for the scale mode none which removes the blinkin rows ... !!! :)

>having problems with recording ..
That's mighty strange. I just redownloaded and tested here and tried as many options as I could and it's recording fine.

1. Transport is running right? Stepper is stepping? Recording doesn't happen without clock.
2. Have you tried a fresh patch?
3. After you record a pattern, does it show up as a solid light on Masterizer page
4. What options are enabled on the melodizer? What mode at bottom? What scale even?

Thx.

sorry barnone ... clock .. duh ... thx, all running fine now

Will 7up Live be able to run on the Launchpad?

bar|none: thanks, glad to contribute even if just a little.

i played another 2 hours last night and had another idea. it is like in my #3 item except i think this is more important for me:

so i record a pattern on the loop recorder, pattern is playing. then i switch to looper mode. i find that i cannot stop the tracks where a pattern is playing using the subnav stop buttons. this makes the patterns hard to use when doing quick transitions on a song (e.g. buildup to chorus, breaking an intro) while still playing with the looper on some tracks, which i do a lot.

is this by design? i can imagine it might be difficult to implement this since there can be more than 1 track per pattern and more than 1 pattern per track. but what if, for example:

pattern 1 <-- tracks 1,2,5
pattern 2 <-- tracks 2,3,4

stop track 1: will stop tracks 2 and 5 as well
stop track 2: will stop ALL tracks (1 to 5)
stop track 3: will stop tracks 2 and 4 as well
etc etc.

this setup i can live with :)

gonna try this tonight.

just wanted to also thank you for this program and your future development of it- of all the monome apps i've used so far it is by far the most intuitive and fun.

keep up the good work!