nonome - monome emulator for Novation Launchpad - 1.24a + 7up_v2

* CHECK THREAD FOR LATEST VERSION - 1.24a *

http://www.vimeo.com/7481651 - basic demo w/mlrV
http://www.vimeo.com/7493152 - flin with nonome version 1.12b

User Guide v1:
http://post.monome.org/?PostBackAction=Download&AttachmentID=2318

Latest Version 1.24a
http://www.mediafire.com/?izx2vtzdecn

SevenUpLive 2.0 for nonome ** Updated 12/4/09 ** -
http://post.monome.org/comments.php?DiscussionID=6245&page=5#Item_25

Official SevenUpLive v2 Thread (by makingthenoise and bar|none) -
http://post.monome.org/comments.php?DiscussionID=6497

How to use SevenUpLive 1.4, and a link to the modified version
http://post.monome.org/comments.php?DiscussionID=6245&page=4#Item_18


Hey everyone. I just wanted to let people know that I created a new version of nonome that works with the Novation Launchpad. I don't really know if this is the right place for stuff like this anymore (since before it was a crude keyboard emu and now it's pretty close to the real thing) but I thought it might be useful.

Basically it works the same way that nonome worked before, but now you can use the Launchpad instead of the keyboard. Here is how to get it going:

1. Download the zip
2. Unzip the zip
3. Open nonome Launchpad Edition > nonome > _nonome-launchpad1.maxpat
4. Choose your Launchpad from the drop down menu
5. Open any monome app (or use the old mlr that had some modifications that I did a while ago)
6. Play!

Most monome apps that use /sys messages will automatically be seen by the nonome. If the prefix doesn't change by itself, just type it in and hit enter (leave off the slash, it will be added automatically).

I used green for the leds but it shouldn't be too hard to hack in the other colors. I also included a colors version that changes randomly between ALL of the available colors / brightness levels - it's kind of fun to watch all the colors shift around :-)

I spend a lot of my time in Ableton Live and I really like the native Launchpad control surface support, so you can control any monome patch while you are using Live by hitting the user2 button.

It's late and I hacked it all together so it might break or freak out. Let me know what works and what doesn't and I'll fix it, or open it up with Max and fix it yourself. It's all for Max 5 and I have no idea what would happen if you opened it with Max 4 (global meltdown?)

Have fun!

looks like it's also working (sort of) with the apc... just select apc40 from the dropdown ;)

Thanks!!! Keep up the good work.

Hi,

Great app! But I am having a problem using it with molar.

It doesn't seems to limit the monome to "user 2" tab, I can control it on any and see it on any of the tabs (instead of having the others tabs just working with the launchpad functions on ableton).

Im I doing something wrong?

Thank you

Version 1.04 is up -

1. More compatibility while being used as a control surface in Ableton Live.
2. monome emulation will only be active while on user2 page -- this means that if you push any of the (round) buttons on the top row other than user2, you will put the Launchpad out of monome emulation mode.
3. Messages will not be sent to or from monome apps while out of user2 mode, however those applications will continue to run in whatever state you left them in while on user2 mode -- the connection will be re-established when you return to user2 mode, but the Launchpad will not refresh the previous working state (i.e. static lights will most likely be off).

You may need to switch pages (session, user1, user2, etc.) if you load nonome after already being connected in Live in order to refresh the LEDs (you'll know if you need to do this because you'll see a lot of red lights).

Thanks for putting in the time to make this emulator. Keep up the good work. I havnt had a chance to try this with all the Monome apps yet. Will all Monome apps work with this, including Sevenup Live?

this is ace work, piclae. well done.

i had a number of problems getting the launchpad to reliably work with version 1 & 1.3 (flaky connection between launchpad and the software it would seem - I'm on a macbook with 10.5)...but it all seems to work well with mlr on version 1.04!

this is the real reason I bought a launchpad so it's marvellous to see it coming together. let me know if I can help any way (bug testing etc)!

i think we have to wait for m4l until this happens.

Firstly, thanks a lot to piclae for the awesome work in having this out so soon - I pre-ordered a launchpad in the full expectation that I'd then have to spend the first few days cobbling together a basic emulator but I'm delighted to find that someone's already done a far better job of it than I could've hoped to.

Secondly, my understanding - and it's second-hand, so I may be mistaken - is that the monome can't be made to emulate the launchpad in Live because of the way Live recognises the device (see http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/11/02/novation-releases-all-midi-details-for-launchpad/#comment-987985). On the other hand, I agree with JP - there's not much point when the more useful functions can be achieved via some fairly straightforward MIDI mapping.

Is there anyone using the nonome who has installed the Max for Live and Live 8.1 betas? I just downloaded them but I thought I'd see if anyone has had experience first.

Thanks!

I Love your work Piclae check out what i did with your nonome/mlr
http://vimeo.com/7439220

@anamexis - I assume you're only getting this while in Live control surface mode?

First try loading the nonome first and then starting Live. Once live is loaded, push the user2 button and see if everything works (if you push the user2 button again, the learn, view, and page keys should turn different colors).

Let me know if that works and if it doesn't, try taking a screen shot of your midi setup in Live and sending it over. We'll see if we can get you all sorted out.

For reference, I am running a MacBook Pro (2.4GHz, 4GB RAM) with Snow Leopard 10.6.1 installed, Live 8.0.8 (and Live 8.1b7), Max 5.0.7 (and Max 5.1b8).

Version 1.06 is up -

1. Bugfixes.
2. This is actually a REALLY important update if you are using nonome while the Launchpad is connected to Live in control surface mode. The switching that keeps nonome and Live separate has been fixed so you don't have to worry about things getting weird when you switch Live sets with nonome active anymore.

@Zubben - This version will almost definitely fix the problem that you were having.

Awesome Job Piclae!!!!

Awesome, hmm seems i'm gonna order one ;)

Version 1.1a yay!! -

1. New graphics
2. Removed the entire right side (mlr file names)
3. A few minor bugfixes
4. Added a Photoshop file for the background pic if you want to make your own digital skin
5. I think it looks better but you might hate it... sorry!

Version 1.11 -

1. A few graphic and performance tweaks

@producer1620 - hmm, I haven't spent a whole lot of time in Sevenup Live but I seem to recall that it uses midi clock right? I've been really hammering on mlrV and it's working beautifully even when synced to Live via ReWire but syncing via midi clock to ANYTHING always seems to give me problems. Some things are definitely showing signs of midi wear like flin and apparently Sevenup Live but it's hard to tell if it's because of how I hacked it all together, or if we're really seeing the limitations of the Launchpad.

I'll keep working on it :)

Fortunately, it does work well at running (among others):

mlr
polygomé
boiinng
blinken park
mabalhabla
balron

Being able to run Live in session and mixer modes is really nice too!

This might seem crazy, but why would you want to run 7up on a launchpad?

7up was kinda designed to fake the way the launchpad was designed to work, so hacking a launchpad to make it do the stuff it was initially designed to do seems like a paradox or something.

@bar|none - Of course, that's why. Yeah, that definitely makes sense.

@JP - From looking through the manual, there are some neat things that 7up does that I could see people wanting even with the Launchpad's great Live control. If 7up was a max patch I would definitely see if it was possible to use the far right column on the Launchpad for control so you could still have a full 8 rows to work with!

@producer1620 - It's all good :) I'm just trying to make something work in a way other than it was intended. I'm having fun working on it, it's allowing me to work in a new way, and I hope that other people are able to use it too. Every time I add something new I find lots of kinks that I try to iron out. Thank you for the vote of confidence, I am pretty happy with where development is now compared to a few days ago when I started and I hope it's even better in the coming days.

I know about the 2 fast update modes: double buffering, and setting 2 LEDs per message, but I don't use either technique in the current version of nonome. I'm sure there is a way to make everything faster when there is a LOT of data at once, but I'm not quite there yet. Maybe someone wants to try it?

Development is open and I can only assume that things run as well for other people as they do for me unless they tell me what problems they're having. I'm not really hammering on it and trying to get it to fail, I mostly fix what comes across my path while I'm playing or problems that I hear from other users.


There was a recent quote on CDM about the Launchpad:
"The fact that people quickly make a Monome emulator for every grid based device is a testament to the Monomes user community who has fostered a great interest in the device and it’s associated applications." - Michael Chenetz

I feel like with the monome, Brian and Kelli created a work flow and mindset that can't really be contained in a single device. None of this would be possible or relevant without tehn's apps, the community's apps, or interest in working/performing in a different way. I'm definitely not trying to piss anyone off.

Hey Everyone I Saw Piclae's Video it is hot so I Made a Vimeo Group where we can put videos of us using nonome check it out and add your !! videos

http://vimeo.com/groups/27145
Piclae add yours Please :)